MLM CRITIC ZEALOTS THEIR MYTHS AND LIES
(The MLM Critic Zealots that cost you 2 million good recruits a year with Myths and Lies)
YOUR BUSINESS STILL UNDER ATTACK BY ANTI-MLM CRITIC ZEALOTS
MLM Survivor Yahoo Mail Group
Brown = Anti-MLM Critic Zealot Red = Ur Ed. Len Clement MarketWave = NAVY BLUE
June 2008 update - With the Illegal short selling furor breaking around Minkow and the FDI, our opinions are that It's great that Len and I saved over a 100 pages off of this Yahoo group. Why? To give to Federal Investigators! Why? So writing sytax and style can be compared to the Yahoo USANA stock board where part of the illegal short selling activity occured. Plus all the Yahoo records can be pulled on the posting critics!
ANTI-MLM CRITIC ZEALOT: Copyright violaton. Should I send MLMWatchDog a cease & desist letter now? After all, the MLMs have been sending anti-mlm websites cease and desist letters for a longtime.
xan
jonathon < Both Len and I are of the opinion that this poster is Jon Taylor Phd ....)
Rod Cook UR WatchDog Editor: SEND THAT LETTER on a Trade Mark violation of using MLM Survivor name on an editorial news site. Great idea! Better yet sue me! After tangling with Bill Gouldd while hammering Equinox, 2 Extreme Performance, Global Prosperity and a number of other crooks (none related to legitimate MLMs), your critic lying rants bug me but don't bother me.
ANTI-MLM ZEALOT: (Jon Taylor ? See our opinion above) MLMWatchDog quote me > > Do note what I wrote. "prohibited retail marketing", not retailing. I don't have the time to search the MLM Survivor archives right now, but at least one person reported that their MLM prohibited retailing.
> > LEN CLEMENTS - You said 99.99% of MLM companies > PROHIBIT RETAIL MARKETING. All I asked you to do was NAME ONE.
It would have been nice if Len had added the email where I did name names to their blog. OTOH, since his MLM was one of those, I'm not surprised that he omitted that email. Amongst companies I mentioned were Amway, Herbalife, Trek
xan
Jonathon. < remember, opinion - both Len and I are of the opinion that this poster is Jon Taylor Phd )
Rod Cook WatchDog: Trek Alliance? Dead long gone! No retailing in Herbalife and AMWAY?
Fat chance! Each one has over a 1,000,000 end user customers who do not participate in the MLM compensation pay plan!
Len: MARKET WAVE: I'm not about to get into this ridiculous argument again, Jonathon. "Prohibit" means they forbid it. They have rules against. They penalize you for doing it. NONE of the companies you listed have any policy, rule, agreement, provision, or bylaw that "prohibits" retail marketing in any way, to any degree.
I think you mean "inhibit" and you're just using the wrong word (and even that wouldn't be true). If you do mean "prohibit" then you are flat out, bold face lying. If you have such a long list of companies, you should have no problem showing me where in their policies they "prohibit" retail marketing. Show me one example.
But this is where we left off last time, remember? I asked for this and you couldn't provide the proof. Yet, you STILL keep making the claim. That means this isn't just an honest mistake, you are deliberately attempting to mislead people. That's a LIE.
Len Clements
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30 August 2004 --- From the MLM Survivor Yahoo Group List!
djasha68 wrote:
> but are you against all types, all mlm companies here?
a) So far, no pro-mlmer has provided _documented_ proof to this list, that they ever showed a profit. [Nor do the two pro-mlm websites on the profitability of an mlm distributor provide such documentation.]
b) The mathematics of mlm are akin to that a pyramid scheme. The _only_ difference between the two, from a legal POV, is that the former meets the following criteria:
i) More than 50% of _all_ product is sold to third party customers.
ii) More than 70% of the product is sold at retail.
iii) Distributors have at least 10 customers per month.
iv) Distributors do not incur any monetary gain from signing up new
distributors. That includes "fees" paid for training, materials, or
any other alleged expenses, or charges.
Now, can you name _one_ MLM that meets those four criteria?
xan
jonathon < Remember both Len and I are of the opinion that this poster is Jon Taylor Phd ....)
Rod MLM WatchDog: Rod Replies: (1) Sure, the fastest growning MLM dollar wise in the U.S. is Keller Williams real estate. Nobody makes money until a house is sold. How do you counter that one, MLM critic Zealot? (2)Your i thru iv are wrong Anti-MLM Zealot! The FTC does not require these, they have said they are desirable, but not a reason to shut a company down. Of course the FTC is wrong too?
17 July 2004 -- MLM SURVIVOR BOARD - MLM'S ARE ILLEGAL (MYTH OR LIE?)
JONATHON MLM CRITIC - (Jon Taylor ? See our opinion above)There is a tremendous difference between retailing, and retail marketing. Do note what I wrote. "prohibited retail marketing", not retailing. I don't have the time to search the MLM Survivor archives right now, but at least one person reported that their MLM prohibited retailing. Here: (a) You obviously don't understand the difference between retail marketing, and retailing. (b) If you want the name of the MLM that prohibited retailing, look in the MLM Survivors Club archive. It was sometime in April or May.
LEN CLEMENTS - You said 99.99% of MLM companies PROHIBIT RETAIL MARKETING. That means that over TWO THOUSAND MLM companies DO NOT ALLOW their reps to do this. You can play all the word games you want, Jonathon, but out of thousands of companies that you claim PROHIBIT RETAIL MARKETING all I asked you to do was NAME ONE – and then explain how that ONE company means that 99.99% of ALL companies PROHIBIT RETAIL MARKETING? Why do you anti-MLM zealots have such a hard time admitting when you're wrong? Len
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MLM CRITIC ZEALOTS PERPETUATING MYTHS AND LIES = BROWN
LEN CLEMENTS MARKETWAVE ONE OF GOOD GUYS = DARK BLUE TYPE
YOUR EDITIOR ROD COOK WITH COMMENTS ON IDIOT REASONING = RED for IRRITATED!
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